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BREAKING NEWS

2002 News Updates

REGIONAL NEWS

BBC Devon and Vengeance
Devon and Cornwall Press

CORNWALL ATTRACTIONS

Culdrose International Air Day 2002
Todays Fleet Air Arm
Recreation & Leisure in Cornwall
Tourism in Cornwall
National Maritime Museum Cornwall
Cornwall Maritime Collection
Smugglers Cottage and Cornish Belle
Trelissick Garden National Trust
Eden Project
Cornwall County Council Home Page
Tamar Cruising 

DEVON ATTRACTIONS BUSINESS

Information Devon of Devon County Council
'Devon for all Seasons'
Devon museums
Tamar Estuaries Consultative Forum (TECF) 
Devon Association of Tourist Attractions
South West Tourism

PLYMOUTH CONTACTS

Plymouthuk website
ABC Southwest

HMNB Devonport
Devonoport Royal Dockyard
Royal Naval Hydrographic & Meteorological School
Plymouth Naval Studies Collection
Devonport Field Gun Association
2171 Squadron Air Training Corps
Queen's Harbour Master Plymouth

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Plymouth City Centre
Port of Plymouth
Plymouth Conference Facilities
University of Plymouth

Plymouth Naval Base Visitor Centre
Plymouth Naval Base Museum
Plymouth Museum 

GRANTS & FUNDS

Funding opportunities from Devon and Europe
Landmark Trust
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The Civic Trust
Save Britains Heritage

BERTHING OF VENGEANCE 
IN 2003-4
Proposed initial berth for HMS Vengeance -Minas Gerais when she returns from Rio de Janeiro
(Photo source: Port of Truro)

 

 

 

 

WEST COUNTRY BERTH FOR HMS VENGEANCE 2003/2004
 

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Map courtesy of ABC Southwest

 

Three of the latest leading proposals in 2003-2004 are for the former HMS Vengeance / NAeL Minas Gerais to be berthed in Scotland with a Leith millionaire, in London with the London Investment group, and with the National Maritime Museum in Cornwall under EU Objective 1 funding, although serious bids have come from Amsterdam as an exhibition hall,  Skegness as a Theme Park, and offshore Kent as a refugee asylum centre.  More about these options as information becomes available.

Two of the leading realistic proposals from 2002-03 were for the former HMS Vengeance / NAeL Minas Gerais to be permanently berthed in the West Country, and active negotiations are underway for  her to go to Torbay or Plymouth Sound. Ideally the ship should be centred in a area of high population and with easy access to tourism. Ideally suited is the county of Devon with a population of 1.1 million people, and over 02.5 million in Plymouth alone. Active negotiations are being led by Finance Cornwall and Devon & Cornwall Business Council, with support of the Friends of HMS Vengeance and the HMS Vengeance Veterans Association, to raise funds and find a home for  HMS Vengeance in the West Country. Options actively being looked at winter 2002 include the Fal Estuary, Brixham and Millbay Plymouth. Plymouth is the front-runner.

VENGEANCE IN CORNWALL 2003/2004

Regardless of longer term plans, the initial intention is to bring HMS Vengeance to a temporary mooring in the Fal Estuary. She will remain there at least until a permanent resting place can be made ready for her.  The Port of Truro Harbour Master has offered a layup mooring berth on the River Fal between Truro and Falmouth. the ship could be in the Fal as early as late 2003 or early 2004.

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VENGEANCE IN PLYMOUTH

The natural home for HMS Vengeance is Plymouth, with its long tradition of naval and aviation heritage. 

The Devon and Cornwall Business Council is exploring a number of favoured Plymouth options, ideally by building and maintaining an traditional link with the Royal Navy. Early in Octber 2002 Cllr Kevin Wigens, Leader of Plymouth City Council, showed interest in the project and has indicated "We need to capitalise on our position as a maritime city with a naval tradition."

On 16 October 2002 Devonport Royal Navy chiefs led by Naval base commander Commodore Andrew Mathews met to consider whether they had spare room for the 19,000 tonne ship, which in her heyday had a crew of 1,300. At the meeting, regional business leaders outlined our ambitious plans to turn the ship into the world's largest floating 'education centre', including a naval aviation museum with old fighter aircraft on the deck. At the meeting with the Devon and Cornwall Business Council (DCBC) Commodore Mathews indicated that there was not enough room at the Naval Base at Devonport. Cdre Mathews said: "We are delighted that Devon and Cornwall Business Council came in to discuss their proposal for HMS Vengeance. It is an exciting proposal and we wish them every success". 

The Devonport option was selected as just one of the favoured Plymouth options, the meeting being held to rebuild the link with the Royal Navy and mantain our Rotal Navy heritage. The DCBC chief executive is following the other Plymouth options and has planned to meet officials from the Cattewater Harbour Commission. Another option is for a swinging mooring, somewhere in the Sound, and the Team are looking somewhere around Cattewater. Millbay docks area is also being investigated.

Plymouth is perhaps the ideal location for HMS Vengeance. Naval and Maritime heritage in the West Country and Plymouth go back a long way. Our greatest Naval hero, Sir Francis Drake, was from Plymouth and the English ships that defeated the Spanish Armada in 1588 sailed from the mouth of the River Plym. The Royal Navy have had a Naval Dock at Devonport since 1693, and the naval aviation history of Plymouth is some of the oldest in the UK dating back to 1913 when the Royal Naval Air Service (RNAS) had a seaplane base in the area, and soon followed by civil and military aviation at Roborough which continues to today. Plymouth was also an important location for such famous Second World War Aircraft carriers as HMS Ark Royal and  HMS Furious. 

It is early days yet but it is hoped that eventually HMS Vengeance is permanently moored at Plymouth, adding to her unique maritime and aviation history, and providing a World class museum and tourist attraction to be found nowhere else in Europe.

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HMS VENGEANCE AND TORBAY

A third leading option which has been investigated as a potential berth for HMS Vengeance is Torbay in Devon. A proposal for her to be moored alongside the Brixham Breakwater has been made in Autumn 2002 by the Devon and Cornwall Business Council and South Devon Chamber of Trade. A mooring is being investigated for her after the current MOD barge 'Longbow' leaves the outer harbour after 13 years. Discussions have been held with Torbay and Brixham Shipping Agents, the owners of the Breakwater. An open meeting was held on 16 October 2002 at the Bixham , Fishermen's Mission. Subsequently, the plan to bring the disused HMS Vengeance aircraft carrier into Tor Bay is being investigated by the group Brixham 21.
 
OTHER POTENTIAL BERTHS

Additional sites are being looked at including Southampton Water, Hull, Kent and the Thames Estuary. At present the Southampton option appears to costly and the site on the Thames will not be ready for a few years. Other options have been put forward in 2003 and will be elaborated in later version of this webpage.
 

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